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<description><![CDATA[<p>Sure, freedom of religion.  Freedom of the press.  But in some warped and twisted way this has become freedom to become annoying as all crap on Facebook.  And, before anyone gets ranty, or at least rantier then me, I understand that I don't have to watch/read/listen.  I get that and I fully support everyone's right to say something that makes me want to scream and beat them with a science textbook.  <br />
But every once in a great while I actually click on the videos that are posted by friends or friends of friends.  And I sit with my neck sore from vigorous head shaking in wonder.  How can you not see propaganda for what it is?  Why is it ok for you to declare that you are in a war with me?  Why do you think it is your right to go out and seek to convert me?  And why do you not see through this?<br />
If I promoted a video that said that we, as atheists, have a responsibility to go out and show all the foolish that they are in danger living their lives the way that they do.  That their blind faith will cause them to suffer needlessly when rational thought is so close to their grasp, people would hunt me down and drag me straight onto Fox News. And yet how is that different?  I watch the videos, and I'm not going to link to them or spread them any further but they're easy enough to find, and I worry that people I really respect will fall victim to this propaganda.  And yes, I've used that word repeatedly but what else would you call it?  Let's look at the definition:<br />
from Mirriam-Webster-<br />
2. the spreading of ideas, information or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause or a person.<br />
3. ideas, facts or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also a public action having such an effect.</p>

<p>The problem with propaganda is that it's rarely truth.  Unfortunately, it's often Truth.  So I will gnash my teeth and stomp my feet and remember that Freedom of Speech isn't predicated on common sense.  But I wonder if I started spreading such propaganda on my social feeds, not just my opinion but information saying that there was a war and it was my job to make sure that religious people were converted, I wonder just how long it would before my friend list dwindled to a small few.  Seems slightly unbalanced for a group decrying how maligned they are.<br />
And on a shallower note--Wow! That was some cheesy ass, heavy handed, over the top video. Really? The dramatic music, the costumes, the battle scenes? I need to be saved from the video.</p>]]></description>
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<category>beating me with the religion stick</category>
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<title>Just because it&apos;s that time of year</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I found this site on Facebook and rather than stir up unnecessary nonsense over there, I thought I would post here.  I find it heartwarming, yes dammit, heartwarming that the best blog post I've read in a while comes from a Pastor.  My small atheist heart might just grow three sizes today.</p>

<p><a href="http://fatpastor.wordpress.com/2008/12/28/happy-holidays/">Fat Pastor Happy Holidays</a></p>]]></description>
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<category>war on...(fill in the blank)</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:37:35 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>Too quick to hit post</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>No, Pepsi is not mounting a War!On!Christians!  Ack, I hate when people repost anything on Facebook.  "If you have a sister who is wonderful post this as your status" "If you're dog has ever licked himself repost as quick as you can"  And ok, I get it, some people have fun with it.  Fine.  Freedom of <s>speech</s> Facebook.  </p>

<p>But riling up the crazies with false information makes me crazy.  So here ya go...here's the latest:</p>

<p>Don't buy the patriotic PEPSI CAN coming out with pictures of the empire state building. and the pledge of allegiance on them. Pepsi LEFT OUT Two little WORDS on the pledge "UNDER GOD" Pepsi said they did not want to offend any one. so if we don't buy them they wont be offended when they don't receive our money!!!!! that has the...words "...... ...In God we trust" on it!!! ...... how fast can you re post this??</p>

<p>Thing is that it is just a version of an email that went around years ago and it is blatantly not true.  In 2001, Dr Pepper put a picture of the Statue of Liberty on their cans with the words "One Nation...Indivisible" over it.  No pledge.  No omissions.  That was it.  It was meant as a sign of solidarity after 9/11.  But jump around and scream and pretend that we are attacking your religious rights while you attack the first amendment. </p>

<p>Oh, and please look up your history:<br />
The Pledge was originally written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy.  The original pledge read, "I pledge allegiance to my flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."  In 1923 and 1924 the National Flag Conference, under the 'leadership of the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution, changed the Pledge's words, 'my Flag,' to 'the Flag of the United States of America.' Bellamy disliked this change, but his protest was ignored.<br />
It wasn't until 1954, after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, that the words "under god" were added.  It was added to separate us from godless communists.  There are some interesting bits of information <a href="http://oldtimeislands.org/pledge/pdgech8.htm">here</a> regarding the history of the pledge.</p>

<p>When I say it, on the few occasions that I do, I leave out the words under god.  They make me uncomfortable at the very least and while I don't protest or ask others to do the same, I at least think a little bit of history would go a long way.  I am not waging a War!On!Christians! In fact, they waged the war.  But it was recent and not a battle fought by the Founding Fathers.  Check the dates.  Have a look.   </p>]]></description>
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<category>war on...(fill in the blank)</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:14:42 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>Mostly just a bookmark</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Found this article and really want to give it a more serious read so I am putting it here so that I remember.  Have a look.  See what you think.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/science/22origins.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss">A Romp Through Theories on Origins of Life --NY Times article</a></p>]]></description>
<link>http://www.jimnshelle.net/wandering/archives/2011/03/mostly_just_a_b.html</link>
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<category>the truth is out there...well maybe</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:16:12 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>Sunday Morning Sing-a-Long</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Steve Martin!</p>

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<p><i>cross posted at <a href="http://jimnshelle.net/blog">Ya Gotta Believe</a></i></p>]]></description>
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<category>a sense of humor is always a good thing</category>
<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:49:39 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>Some things are sacred</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Joss? You are going to try and throw Christianity up against Joss and get it to stick?  No.  You can and should look at Firefly and Serenity through whatever lens you would like--that's all well and good.  However, to skew theories and concepts by cherry-picking out of context examples and trying to make them fit into Christian theologies when the point has clearly and repeatedly been made that the characters and the writer are not Christian is insulting and smacks of grad student over-theorizing. <br />
Firefly and Serenity would make excellent examples of Post-Colonial theory or Gender theory, possibly dozens of others.  I've often considered researching linguistic theory and changes to modern language that resulted from the pop culture phenomenon of Buffy.  But Mal as a Christian? No. Citing that Mal makes moral choices does not make him Christian.  In fact, I would argue that part of the point that Joss is making in the creation of a character like Mal, is that morality does not necessitate the existence of a "sky bully." Mal has a very strong, individual belief system--a moral compass. His actions are guided and driven by this code of beliefs and it is not in any way a religiously inspired value system.  On the contrary, Mal points out over and over that he does not believe in religion or God. <br />
Mal: If I'm your mission, Shepherd, best give it up. You're welcome on my boat. God ain't (The Train Job)<br />
In much the same way, pointing out the existence of evil in its characters or premise does not provide proof that there must exist a deity that either created or condemns such behaviors or situations.<br />
One of Joss' strong suits as a writer/director is that he creates characters that do not easily fit stereotypes--Joss forces people to see gray areas between good/evil.  Is Mal a good man? Certainly he cares for his crew, he has a strong code that he follows, he does what he feels is right, he is not a self-centered character.  We want to like Mal.  The audience is supposed to like Mal.  Now, carefully look at the those qualities and apply them to The Operative.  He too cares for his crew, has a strong code that he follows, does what he feels to be right and is not portrayed as self-centered or acting for his own good or benefit.  Joss' most frightening villains are those who believe unquestioningly in their purpose--those who do not question. Is Mal a hero? Absolutely but he is not necessarily always the good guy. He is, after all, a thief and an outlaw and we love him more for it.<br />
Mal. Bad. In the Latin. — River, in The Train Job<br />
Joss wants you to think.  This is not theology.  These are not biblical notions of good and evil.  These shows would crumble in a second if they were hampered by such simplistic ideological bunk. These shows--and I will include in here, Buffy, Angel, Firefly, Dollhouse and Dr Horrible--all succeed because the characters are not simplistic.  Of all of these characters, Buffy comes the closest to being a hero archetype and she was a female, teenage, often whiny, rebellious cheerleader.  Angel? Spike? Echo? Mal? Captain Hammer? Dr Horrible? They are all more complex characters either for integrity of story, complexity of narrative or sheer campiness.</p>

<p>Back to Firefly--watch Jaynestown. Watch the interactions between River and Shepherd Book. Watch those interactions paralleled with the misguided worship of a "hero" by people who just need something to cling to when they are forced to live in an oppressive situation--when they are desperate for hope they will believe what they want in the face of evidence to the contrary.  <br />
If you are looking for good/evil certainly you can take away examples from Joss' work but it isn't always as black and white as it would appear and it isn't always the heroes that are good or the villians that are evil.  This show is not a show that lends itself as a shining example of Christian ethics, beliefs and morality.  Some things are sacred. Firefly is one of those things.<br />
/rant</p>

<p>Link to the original articles (as referenced in <a href="http://whedonesque.com/comments/26135">Whedonesque</a>) given in extended entry.  </p>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:51:52 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>A thin line</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The last viewing of Truth Project didn't go as well as the first few.  Seems we have come to an impasse--to a place where we aren't arguing merits or facts but just relying on what we believe at a core level.  There's no amount of debate that can change that. In either of our situations, from either of our perspectives, a change in belief system would require more than a set of proofs or persuasive reasoning.  It would ultimately result in a complete paradigm shift.  That point itself makes it much harder to foresee a change.  When you then factor in traditions, cultures and heritage, it is never easy for someone to truly look inward and make such a significant change.  This discussion is more of an exploration and an attempt to diversify the thought processes that have combined to mold the beliefs that we identify with currently.  When you stop asking, when you stop learning, when you stop working on who you are and who you want to become, you just get tossed around by the currents and that is something that I don’t intend to do.<br />
But now, watching is sometimes more upsetting than I thought it would be.  I feel more defensive than I anticipated and more frustrated than I want to be.  So we've come to an agreement that we'll watch only the ones that we think will lead to a good discussion and I will try very hard to not take notes so strenuously that I tear through the paper while it is going on.<br />
I'm hoping we can still get through it.</p>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:36:25 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>Open Forum</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I am seriously considering opening this blog up to a few select people with opposing views.  I have always been serious that simply hiding your head and believing what has been handed to you without question is wrong.  In that spirit, and a desire to have real conversation without accusation or derision, I may open this space up a bit. If I truly believe that questioning and learning is the only way to really come to the truth (and that's truth with a small "t") then this makes sense.</p>

<p>If you are interested please let me know.  As always, the comments are open to any respectful discourse.  </p>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:00:47 -0500</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned that I was watching the Truth Project and I promise that I will post my thoughts and a detailed reaction soon.  However, this morning I apparently feel the need to just repeatedly smack my head against the desk.  I cannot for the life of me understand how someone can so purposefully and willingly twist and distort statistics, quotes and information to suit his own purpose.  And more frighteningly than that, to do it in the guise of a kindly leader who hates to share such upsetting information with his followers but simply must.</p>

<p>And yet?  I keep reading it.  I read more and more until I can't stop wanting to scream--until I am so upset that people can willingly close their minds and listen to this without questioning or looking beyond the limited and skewed information that is being presented.  I am not even asking that people change their belief systems or world view.  That's not the point at all.  What I do wish however is that they would question such subjective information, question, learn and think for themselves.  At the end of that, if they still believe what they believe then they are stronger for it.  Me?  I cannot look at the information presented and say "I know it makes no sense but I choose to believe it anyway."  <br />
I choose to look further than surface information.  The appearance of something does not make it so.</p>

<p>If you have a need to bang your head against something this morning <a href="http://deltackett.com/">here</a> is the blog.</p>

<p>I am going to take a break.  My head hurts from vigorous head-shaking, eye-rolling and general banging against the proverbial wall.  </p>]]></description>
<link>http://www.jimnshelle.net/wandering/archives/2011/03/why_do_i_keep_r.html</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:51:12 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>The Truth Project</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I have been fortunate enough to be able to watch the first 6 episodes of The Truth Project with friends of mine.  No, I haven't been convinced to change my world view.  But that wasn't the point.  The point was for me to share what they believed and share why and where we disagree or agree with this series.<br />
I have to admit that I am occasionally surprised on where we agree and disagree.  I am going to go over my notes and go through this in a more detailed manner but I am enjoying the discussions afterward.  <br />
I have only walked out one time with my feathers ruffled.  Sometimes it is very difficult to watch an hour of someone teaching that you are a "fool" or "evil" or any of the other demeaning names that this condescending man is spewing.  And I realize that this is a series meant to help Christians live the faith that they believe, to be able to stand up for what they believe and explain their beliefs when confronted.  However, making the entire thing a polemic between right (the very narrow definition of what they believe) and wrong (the entirety of the rest of the world) seems a little less than Christian. <br />
Those who don't believe what you believe aren't evil and espousing such beliefs while using out of context quotes and inaccurate or biased studies to back up your claims only makes things more divisive.  Like it or not, there are many world views and you need to know and be able to live in a world that can contain them all.<br />
Ok, I know this was a bit of a ramble but I was looking for a jumping off point.  I will break it down more as I move forward.  This week is historical accuracy of biblical texts and I am looking forward to seeing what they have to say on this topic.</p>]]></description>
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<category>not arguing...debating</category>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>Cross posting but how could I resist putting this on here!</p>

<table style='font:11px arial; color:#333; background-color:#f5f5f5' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='360' height='353'><tbody><tr style='background-color:#e5e5e5' valign='middle'><td style='padding:2px 1px 0px 5px;'><a target='_blank' style='color:#333; text-decoration:none; font-weight:bold;' href='http://www.thedailyshow.com'>The Daily Show With Jon Stewart</a></td><td style='padding:2px 5px 0px 5px; text-align:right; font-weight:bold;'>Mon - Thurs 11p / 10c</td></tr><tr style='height:14px;' valign='middle'><td style='padding:2px 1px 0px 5px;' colspan='2'<a target='_blank' style='color:#333; text-decoration:none; font-weight:bold;' href='http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october-26-2009/susie-essman'>Susie Essman<a></td></tr><tr style='height:14px; background-color:#353535' valign='middle'><td colspan='2' style='padding:2px 5px 0px 5px; width:360px; overflow:hidden; text-align:right'><a target='_blank' style='color:#96deff; text-decoration:none; font-weight:bold;' href='http://www.thedailyshow.com/'>www.thedailyshow.com</a></td></tr><tr valign='middle'><td style='padding:0px;' colspan='2'><embed style='display:block' src='http://media.mtvnservices.com/mgid:cms:item:comedycentral.com:252518' width='360' height='301' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' wmode='window' allowFullscreen='true' flashvars='autoPlay=false' allowscriptaccess='always' allownetworking='all' bgcolor='#000000'></embed></td></tr><tr style='height:18px;' valign='middle'><td style='padding:0px;' colspan='2'><table style='margin:0px; text-align:center' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='0' width='100%' height='100%'><tr valign='middle'><td style='padding:3px; width:33%;'><a target='_blank' style='font:10px arial; color:#333; text-decoration:none;' href='http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes'>Daily Show<br/> Full Episodes</a></td><td style='padding:3px; width:33%;'><a target='_blank' style='font:10px arial; color:#333; text-decoration:none;' href='http://www.indecisionforever.com'>Political Humor</a></td><td style='padding:3px; width:33%;'><a target='_blank' style='font:10px arial; color:#333; text-decoration:none;' href='http://www.thedailyshow.com/videos/tag/health'>Health Care Crisis</a></td></tr></table></td></tr></tbody></table>]]></description>
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<category>a sense of humor is always a good thing</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:27:26 -0500</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>Church.  Yup, you heard me, church.  And not for a wedding, funeral, or other such occasion.  Just church.  If you know me, you know that this is something that isn't likely to happen and yet, this morning, I got the boys up, showered, dressed and out of the house with little or no stress and headed off to church.  </p>

<p>The real reason was to see a friend who was playing in the band this morning.  Their family is very, very dear to me.  In addition, I've always promised that if the boys were interested, I would take them.  I won't make up their minds for them.  They can choose.  It isn't like choosing to be a Yankee fan--that will get you banned and disowned--this, this I can almost understand.  Almost.</p>

<p>It was much as I expected as far as the contemporary worship went.  I wasn't surprised by the logistics of it all.  I have to admit though that I was feeling awkward and out of my element.  I couldn't relax, couldn't stop feeling like I was the square peg, couldn't stop twitching at my meditation bracelets and picking at invisible fuzz on my shirt.  The boys were good.  They were just a little restless but enjoyed the music.  But see, here's the thing:  I enjoyed the idea of the music.  It was played well.  I enjoyed it on that level.  I loved watching my friend play.  But somehow, I couldn't get past the lyrics.  There was a part of me that would have liked to sing but not to worship, only because I love music.  I get something out of harmonies and rhythms that as I looked around I realized that other people get out of the lyrics.  It felt hypocritical to sing.  In a traditional church I sing.  I know the hymns and they are, well, traditional.  There's something about the history, the composers, the choral structure that allows me to sing and participate without feeling that I am being hypocritical.  So, while I enjoyed the talent and the music, there was no singing for me.</p>

<p>It was very contemporary which for me was both interesting and unsettling.  I'm an atheist.  I can, however, see a draw in the tradition and social aspects of religion.  I can see how one might take comfort in a community of like minded people.  It makes sense to me.  And in that way, I can see how even a contemporary service allows for that kind of interaction.  For me, stripped of tradition, I am left with only the theology and that is problematic.</p>

<p>The pastor was engaging and entertaining.  I didn't find my mind wandering even once during the sermon.  I did however, experience a near panic attack early on--my eyes darting over to the door, wondering if I could use the boys as an excuse to bolt.  But the boys were on their best behavior and I would not influence them.  So I took my meditation beads and one after the other passed them between anxious fingers until I had settled back down.  I looked for a common thread instead of focusing on how different we were.  It is difficult to find.  It is difficult, but it is indeed there.  The difference is not whether or not we are moral or whether or not we want to live a life that is worthwhile and meaningful.  The difference comes in how we choose to focus our intent.  </p>

<p>I tried.  I tried to listen and understand but it is not who I am.  It apparently is also not who my boys are either.  I am sure that I have influenced them.  It is inevitable.  But they were respectful and curious and I was proud of them.  </p>

<p>I am willing to admit that there are things that I will never be able to explain in this world--that there are things that no one can explain--and to me that's acceptable.  It's even awe inspiring.  The difference is that I don't assign that awe to a god.  It isn't a flaw in my character.  It is what I believe.  Interestingly, my friend said that he didn't think I could be converted because I had no beliefs to convert.  That isn't true.  It is not a lack of belief, it is not a lack of a moral compass that makes me an atheist.  I believe differently than he does, than most of my family does.  I have faith in people, in the people I love, but do not need to and will not hand over the control of my life to a mythology that seems not to apply to me.  I am who I choose to be. It is a mantra that I use often when meditating.  I have free will.  I have a choice. And I am who I choose to be.  It isn't easy to take that kind of control and more often than not I fail.  But I still try.  </p>

<p>Two good things came out of this morning--at least two good things, maybe more.  I got to share something that is very special with a family that I respect and love almost as much as my own family.  I got to see a major part of their life and understand them a bit better.  Because I don't agree doesn't mean I don't respect the kind of commitment that they have to their faith and to that community.  I envy them that on some level.  I respect the way that they live their faith.  I would love to sit and talk with them and find the common ground.  I know that it is there.  The other thing is that, in some way, the service only reinforced my own beliefs.  Once I felt less like a stranger and more like an observer, I was comfortable because I knew who I was.  It took a very long time to get to this point in my life but it is a good place.  </p>

<p>Am I going back?  That's up to the boys.  For them, I would go.  For me?  It was good to share that and to experience a part of something that I usually am on the outside looking in at. I know that it is not for me but knowing that allowed me to appreciate this morning in a way I could not have done not so long ago.  So yes, I went to church and I didn't wear a sign that said atheist and no one tried to convert me.  We just shared a little of who we are and I'm glad for that</p>]]></description>
<link>http://www.jimnshelle.net/wandering/archives/2009/08/a_rare_event.html</link>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>Friends of ours recently opened a small local business.  Well, not so much friends as people we know through baseball.  And at this small little business, in the brisk winter season, they have a tree lot.</p>

<p>We thought it would be nice to get our tree from there.  </p>

<p>Here's the catch.  As I drove by yesterday, eyeing up the trees and seeing which one might want to spend the season in my living room, I saw a large sign out by the road.</p>

<p>"Keep Christ in Christmas"</p>

<p>We'll skip over my rants and tirades and the fact that the tree is the least Christian symbol of the season.  I have no problem whatsoever with them having that sign out.  That's what they believe, whether or not I support it, not a problem.  But....you knew there was a but....do I want to buy my tree there?  Am I going to back up what I believe and go somewhere else?  Do I ignore it because we want to support them or support their right to their beliefs but skidaddle on over to the less in your face tree stand?</p>

<p>I'm thinking we go elsewhere.  Quietly.  No nonsense, no judging, just elsewhere for our yuletide decorations.</p>]]></description>
<link>http://www.jimnshelle.net/wandering/archives/2008/12/keeping_the_yul.html</link>
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<category>holidays for the rest of us</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:20:20 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>28 crosses</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>No, not 27 Dresses.  You'll have to look elsewhere for witty, romantic banter.  I'm discussing the fact that I went to a municipal office yesterday to pay a bill and that's what I was faced with--28 crosses hanging on the wall behind the receptionist's desk.  Twenty-eight gaudy crosses of all different shapes, sizes, materials and origins.  There were metal ones and ceramic ones, beaded ones and simple ones.  But there were no less than 28 and they were accompanied by a couple of depictions of Jesus with a few saints thrown in for good measure.  The smallest of these crosses was at least 6"-8" in height.  These weren't itty, bitty crosses.  These were definitely up for some serious blessing.</p>

<p>After waiting the required amount of time expected at any municipal office, I was helped by a somewhat stereotypically grouchy receptionist who, after stamping, printing and copying the duplicate and triplicate forms, wished me a blessed day.  </p>

<p>Hrumph.</p>

<p>Before I go on my little tirade, yes, I know she probably meant it kindly, and yadda, yadda, yadda, but bear with me for a bit, 'k?</p>

<p>Let's say for a second that the wall had been full of many versions of Buddha--laughing Buddha, sitting Buddha, etc.  Or maybe, many versions of the Star of David--a glittery one, a metal one, a beaded one, one made out of macaroni and gold spray paint--would that have been ok?  Would people have been ok with the Muslim symbols?  Pagan symbols?  No.  I think it would have sent them, clutching their crosses, and running.<br />
Am I wrong?  Would you have felt uncomfortable with an over the top display of a religion that differs so greatly from yours in a municipal building?    </p>

<p>What makes them think that I am ok with the 28 crosses?  What makes that appropriate for a government building?  It isn't.  Pure and simple.  That clearly promotes that religion.  And I'm not talking subtle nuance or traditions that have been long established.  I'm not talking about a simple cross or picture on a personal desk.  I'm talking a  full-out, crazy, cross lady--a stark, raving, mad, cross collector loose at the Trenton Water Works.  I don't want to be blessed, thanks.  And I sure as hell don't need my water blessed.  I just need you to stop screwing up the accounts.  </p>

<p>It is completely an inappropriate place for that kind of a personal display.  Believe whatever you want to but there's no need for the decoupage deity behind the counter at the water works.  And you know what?  You can even wish me a blessed day if that floats your boat.  I probably wouldn't have minded if it hadn't felt like I was at the Inquisition.  Can atheists partake in the municipal water?  Just curious.  </p>

<p><i>cross posted at <a href="http://jimnshelle.net/blog">Ya Gotta Believe</a></i></p>]]></description>
<link>http://www.jimnshelle.net/wandering/archives/2008/11/28_crosses.html</link>
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<category>beating me with the religion stick</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:20:34 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>Thanks Brad</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>for confirming the title of this blog.  Obviously, you guys won because Jesus hates the Rays. </p>

<p>Gah.</p>]]></description>
<link>http://www.jimnshelle.net/wandering/archives/2008/10/thanks_brad.html</link>
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<category>seriously?</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:03:28 -0500</pubDate>
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